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Posted by DR on July 29, 2005 at 10:08 [67.83.76.91]

In Reply to: Re: It depends where they see it, posted by Welumen on July 27, 2005 at 00:45

I couldn't agree more.

I think the reverse is also true -- I'm uncomfortable when incontinent folks come looking for socialization in the diaper fetish community. Not that they aren't welcome here, because they are, but I think their social values are different from the core values of the diaper fetish community.

For instance -- the diaper fetish community almost unanimously views diaper desires as "adult." Note, I didn't say "sexual" -- but "adult," meaning that our discussions, content and interactions should be reserved for adults only, and among adults only. Do most incontinent folks view diaper desires in the same way? I doubt it. Which is simply to say that I think they might be more willing to cross the line between adult-minor interactions than would be appropriate for those of the diaper desires community.

Also, people with diaper desires are often unprotected by law, whereas the incontinent are protected. For example, in the US, a person can be fired without recourse for his/her diaper desires. No law, federal or state, specifically protects this class. Alternately, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) protects the incontinent from dismissal due to their disabilities. As such, people with diaper desires have special needs for community, awareness and activism that incontinent people do not. Our diaper desires community reflects these values, whereas the incontinent community does not.

My point is that our value systems are conflicting. In recent years, I've seen many more incontinent folks socializing in the diaper community -- with a concomitant rise in inappropriate minor content. I've no empirical data to support a causal relationship between these two, but the anecdotal evidence is compelling. Do the incontinent belong in our community? Certainly they are free to participate, but I hope they also understand and respect *our* values in the same way that diaperists should act in their forums, with regard to their values.

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