Posted by L.E. on July 30, 2005 at 08:42 [82.96.100.100]
In Reply to: Re: Stories by Hal posted by DR on July 30, 2005 at 03:12
Well,I don't see how one obtains consent in the first place if not allowed to persuade!
I don't see the challenge in not having to measure one's efforts within rules...just as she needs to do as I say,I need to inspire her willingness to do so.To make her do it when she doesn't want to is like shooting baskets after the final buzzer and expecting the score to count.
Yes,it IS about guiding her down a slippery slope.But it's a blemish on the dom's record,not the sub's,if he can't get her to wear she'd never say no to anything WHILE making sure she never quite says no,even if she trembles,on the way down there.
Rules and discipline for breaking them are fine,but there has to be an agreed framework,not using her as target practice when she had no chance.And punishment that doesn't have a corrective effect is useless as discipline.
I've said many times..."humiliation is not my trip...conditioning is my trip.I want to teach her to like things,not make her do things she doesn't like." But I realize that some things I like (including in the diaper area) may parse as "humiliation" to others.
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