Posted by DR on August 03, 2005 at 09:21 [67.83.76.91]
In Reply to: Re: Sorry Val -- but you're really sad posted by Victoriah Nichole Little on August 03, 2005 at 07:52
"Interesting, DR. So do you normally cut of discussion with everyone you can't get to agree with you?"
::shrugs:: I cut conversations off that have no further use to me. Val thinks he's right, I *know* he's wrong, but I can't convice him. So, he's cut off.
But honestly both you and Val need to learn to read what I've *WRITTEN* and not what you *THINK* I did.
My very, very simple statement was that you shouldn't chat with minors if the parents wouldn't approve of that conversation.
If a minor talks to a professional, unsolicited (meaning without the approval of the parents), then *my* criterion is "would the parents approve of that conversation?"
Maybe. Just because the conversation is kept a secret from the parents doesn't mean that the parents wouldn't approve of the content of that conversation. If a teacher or counselor says to a minor, "Don't do drugs." I think the vast majority of parents would approve of that conversation. I'm okay with that.
But I'll be clear -- if the parents later said, "Do not speak with your teacher or counselor about drug use." then the teacher or counselor should respect and abide by that decision, even if the teacher or counselor feel a moral obligation to talk with that minor. Instead, the teacher or counselor should alert the authorities about the situation. But they should no longer speak with the minor about drugs. The parents'/guardian's decision should be respected.
But this is all hypothetical nonsense that distorts the real issue -- which is talking to teen babies. Counselors and teachers and psychologists and doctors are societally recognized as people who help youngsters. Diapered adults are not. These professionals are licensed, bonded, insured, and are specifically trained in helping minors. Diapered adults are not.
So the analogy is absolutely ridiculous.
And given the number of anonymous predators on the Web who hunt minors, my simple, little statement is absolutely true. Would the parents approve of a diapered adult speaking with their child, even on a completely non-sexual, non-diaper related topic? 99.999999999% of them *WOULD NOT.*
Mom: "Billy, who are you talking to?"
Billy: "Mr. Val on the computer."
Mom: "What are you talking about?"
Billy: "The new Harry Potter book."
Mom: "How do you know Mr. Val?"
Billy: "He responded to one of my posts."
Mom: "Why did he respond to you specifically?"
Billy: "Probably because he liked my post, but there's a small chance its because we both like wearing diapers."
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Every time you or anyone else in the diaper world talks with a teen baby or teen DL you:
1. Make it harder to discern who the predators are
2. You enable predators. Guess what, they start off their conversations by talking about Harry Potter too! Predators use the same line of bullshit -- they are "just talking" about non-sexual stuff.
3. You lower the defenses of minors, who think its okay to speak with adults.
4. Create a culture in the diaper community that its "okay" to interact with minors, which later leads to thoughts that its okay to interact in public with them, which later leads to thoughts that its okay to talk "just a little" about diapers with them, and down the slippery slope the community goes.
Instead, they should be taught that adults will not speak with them, and told unconditionally, "I do not speak with you, on any topic, until you're an adult. This is for *your* protection. If you need help, seek out a professional counselor or kink-aware psychologist. You can find such a psychologist at the Kink Aware Professionals website."
Or, if these adults *really* want to speak with these minors, then get the consent of the parents. Reveal everything about yourself. Say to them that you only want to discuss non-sexual topics, but it just so happens that you and the minor share a diaper fetish. Give those parents your full name, address and telephone so that if anything goes wrong, they can track you down.
If you can get the parents approval to speak with that child under those conditions, then who am I to argue? Chat away!
But the fact is that no adult into diapers would ever be so transparent, nor ever ask permission of the parents. That's because you *know* the conversations are wrong.
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