How to untrain yourself



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Posted by DaBuddha on August 23, 2002 at 12:57

I have seen people ask this question since there were message boards, and I have grown tired of the lack of answers. I did it, and this is what needs to be done. If you have been searching for a way, this is the only one that seems to work short of spinal injury.

I am using these methods at the present time and am seeing a drastic decline in my bladder and bowel control, I project that this method will show results which will require the user to wear diapers out of necessity rather than recreation in 6 months to a year. This system really works!

1. Get someone to help you, it will get tedious and you will be tempted to quit… from the point that you decide to go back into diapers to the one year marker, any time out will quickly undo all that you have worked for.
2. Throw away all underwear, don’t keep a pair for emergencies, you wear diapers now, that’ s it. It is important to understand that you will no longer be wearing adult underwear, and that diapers will be required from this point foreword. Cut all underwear into strips or rags, make them useless and throw them away. This is the first step and makes the decision permanent because you have now willingly destroyed this link to the adult world.
3. Purchase at least six bags of diapers at a time. This step destroys the potential to think that when this pack is done you can go back. Seeing all those packs has a humbling effect , remind yourself often that those are for your use and will be gone by next month, when you will need to buy more.
4. Research incontinence support pages, but make no comments on the boards! You will find what incontinence really is here. These people, unlike you, do not want to use or need diapers! Understand that there is no going back once you cross the line from using diapers to needing diapers, this is a permanent change, and although you may be able to retrain to a certain point, night time diapers will most likely be a reality for you for the rest of your life.
5. Try on all of your pants or shorts with your diapers on… if they don’t fit, get new ones. There is no sense holding on to pants that you can’t wear, and they will only make you want to take your diaper off to wear them. Re-working your wardrobe is a good test to see how serious you actually are about becoming permanently diapered and incontinent.
6. Using diapers 24/7 the average adult will use six diapers in a 24 hour period. I recommend wal-mart’s Assurance brand, they are absorbent and relatively inexpensive. Add this expense to your budget.
7. Buy several A-style undershirts in the triple x size and sew the crotch together in the middle leaving leg holes in the sides to make onesies, these can be stepped into and worn under your clothes. Like a baby or toddler, these garments will prevent you from taking off your diaper without a serious struggle. This is the most effective restraint I have found for keeping a diaper on. Sometimes a simple barrier is enough to stop you, or at least give time to resist the impulsive urge to take you diaper off and undo your training.
8. WET or MESS AS SOON AS YOU FEEL THE URGE, DO NOT HOLD IT!
9. After you wet, DO NOT CLENCH, let the muscles remain in the relaxed position. Also do not bear down when you wet. You want the muscles to weaken, clenching after voiding will drastically slow the process if not prevent it from starting at all.
10. Get a hypnotic tape. Some people will tell you that they don’t work, believe me, they do… the trick is to not expect them to do all the work for you! If you don’t do anything but listen to the tape every once and a while, of course it won’t work! There is no magic bullet to make you incontinent (sorry to say) and you will need to use it EVERY DAY! Rely more on the other steps in this list, the hypnosis makes it easier to wet and mess your diaper, but will not “rob you of your control,” at least not immediately.
11. Order at least 10 pair of plastic pants. Diapers are a good start, but for the constant wearer, plastic pants are a must.
12. ABSOLUTELY NO TOILETS! For no reason should the you use the toilet for ANYTHING! Lock the bathroom door, give the key to a friend.
13. Do not change diapers in the bathroom, there should be as little time spent in the bathroom as possible, create a changing area with a diaper pail, wipes, powder, etc. We are trained to go to the bathroom when we need to void, that link needs to be cut as soon as the new program starts. The subject will need to endure a few months of constant diapers, but eventually you will not even associate voiding with the toilet, until that time the bathroom should be used for showering only.
14. Buy a diaper bag for yourself, a backpack or canvas briefcase will work. Avoid toddler or baby bags unless you want everyone to know you are diapered. Take this bag with you everywhere you go, you’ll need it.
15. Buy a set of washcloths all one color to use as cleanup wipes, use them for nothing else. Pack them in your diaper bag, put them in your cleanup area, keep them in the shower area. These are all one color so you don’t forget and wash your face with a diaper rag.
16. Purchase three diaper pales; put one in the changing area, one in your bedroom (for night time changes) and one by the shower.
17. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR DIAPER. As soon as you change out of a soiled diaper, put another one on. Don’t wander the house, talk on the phone, or go back to sleep without a diaper… ever, this will undermine your training. Get your coach or partner to help you. (if they won’t, pee the bed without a diaper a few times, your spouse or lover will insist you are diapered after a while.)
18. Don’t make your diaper too tight, especially men, this will hold your urethra closed and make it harder to pee, especially at night.
19. Double diaper at night. Take one diaper and cut the plastic in half inch slits with a box cutter (DO NOT DO THIS WHILE WEARING IT), put it on and then put another diaper over the top of the cut one. This will extend the life of your diaper. This is especially useful for overnight and those times when you are not able to change for extended periods of time. Other boosters work too (depend boost, serenity pads, or toddler size six diapers work very well.) This adds extra bulk, but is well worth not having wet spots on your pants.
20. Drink more water, eat more fruit and vegetables. The body will make subtle changes as the need to hold fluid is eliminated, but until that time you will need to drink more to avoid constipation and dehydration.
21. Practice voiding laying down for night time wetting. Try to wet in the bathtub at first until you can get it to work. Certain muscles need to be re-trained to open in certain positions, so find the most likely sleeping position and practice it when you are awake.
22. Practice wetting while walking, sitting, driving, and laying down. This is much harder for men than women.
23. Practice the best position to mess in a diaper, this can be difficult at first, don’t expect immediate results. The more fruit and water you consume the healthier your bowel will be. Interestingly, after a while you will become very regular and your bowel will be very healthy with soft stool and minimum pushing needed, if any is needed at all. If you are having trouble with hard stools, try heating about 4 ounces of prune juice in the microwave to the warm tea level and chugging it, I know it sounds gross, but believe me, it makes it much easier to mess your diaper.
24. Plan to go COMPLETELY incontinent, that is to wet and mess in your diapers. The muscles are connected, and chances are that if you lose bladder than bowel will follow anyway, it is best to just forfeit both and get used to it sooner.
25. Eat less meat, especially beef, it makes your stool smell very bad and can cause rashes to form faster, it also constipates you.
26. For men, avoid excessive ejaculation, any swelling of the prostate makes it harder to void.
27. For men, avoid Benedryl or anything with Dipenhydramine HCL, it makes you sleep, but it makes your prostate swell.
28. Go to bed wet, this makes it easier to wet the next time.
29. If you wake and have to pee, try to not move that much or change positions. If you can’t go without changing positions, try laying flat on your back with your knees bent, try to go in this position, if this still does not work, try taking a sip of water, for some reason this helps relax the muscles and you will be able to go.
30. If no other bedwetting technique works, try to stand up and start to pee then lay down before you finish, completing the diaper filling in bed.
31. Shave the entire area down there, no hair makes it easier to wet, something about the perineum (pubic area) being warm and wet helps promote incontinence. The more you shave, the tougher your skin will get in that area. If you are sensitive at first, don’t give up. Avoid chemicals and waxes, as they irritate the skin.
32. Call diapers “diapers”, don’t rename or avoid the word, you are a diaper wearer, not a brief, pad, culottes, or anything else.
33. Eat watermelon as much as possible, and especially at night. This helps to promote loose stools and lots of urine, it is also a bladder irritant.
34. Drink catnip tea, it is a bladder relaxant.
35. Whenever you think of it, loosen up or unclench your bladder and anal muscles, get used to them being in the open state that they are in after you void.
36. Visualize yourself wetting your diapers and having accidents, concentrate on the fact that you need diapers and have no control at all. This helps with the practice of becoming dependent and forming the diaper habit. Studies have shown that you can improve in golf and basketball by practicing shots in your mind, so it stands to reason that visualizing using a diaper and practicing having no control will work too.
37. Purchase a loofah to wash your diaper area. Yes it sounds harsh, but a daily shower and loofah in that area will keep rashes at bay better than any cream you can imagine. Use ivory soap.
38. You will eventually develop urge incontinence from wetting as soon as you feel the need, tell people you wear diapers at work and anywhere else you need to be on a regular basis. This works twofold, one: you are now EXPECTED to be diapered, and so if you cheat, everyone will wonder what the heck you are doing using a toilet instead of a diaper, and two: you will not have to explain why you bring your bag into the bathroom with you when you. For doctors visits or if you need to get a checkup, tell your doctor you are incontinent, you don’t need to have any tests done, simply refuse treatment. You will develop bona-fide urge incontinence and functional incontinence anyway, so it will be the truth.


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